Dan Snyder letter defending team name

[nolanvt]

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

[oaktonhokie]

Change the name to the foreskins. I've always thought that would be a great nickname for the defensive line.
Why not the whole team?

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

[awesome guy]

They should be the DC Redskins

[nolanvt]

They should be the DC Redskins

You must have read the Onion today.

[awesome guy]

FB, same thing

[Major Kong]

My vote is for the WHAASPs (pronounced Wasps)...White Hispanic African Asian Peoples

[BigDave]

I like the name Elon used to have - the Fighting Christians.

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[Homebrew]

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

Look if marriage can be so easily redefined, why not the word "redskins"?

I think nearly 100 years of being a football team qualifies it as being a new, positive definition.

[nolanvt]

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

Look if marriage can be so easily redefined, why not the word "redskins"?

I think nearly 100 years of being a football team qualifies it as being a new, positive definition.

If you want to argue that the name isn't racist, defend your position on the merits. Citing tradition is a logical fallacy.

[awesome guy]

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

Look if marriage can be so easily redefined, why not the word "redskins"?

I think nearly 100 years of being a football team qualifies it as being a new, positive definition.

If you want to argue that the name isn't racist, defend your position on the merits. Citing tradition is a logical fallacy.

He did. If you can redefine a 10000 year old word, we can redefine a 100 year old word.

[nolanvt]

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

Look if marriage can be so easily redefined, why not the word "redskins"?

I think nearly 100 years of being a football team qualifies it as being a new, positive definition.

If you want to argue that the name isn't racist, defend your position on the merits. Citing tradition is a logical fallacy.

He did. If you can redefine a 10000 year old word, we can redefine a 100 year old word.

The assertion from the anti-Redskins contingent is that the name is a slur. In their opinion, just because racial slurs were okay 100 years ago (analogous to slurs that other minority groups were subjected to) doesn't mean they're okay now. The best defense for Snyder and other Redskins name advocates would be to state why the name isn't offensive. From a PR standpoint, I don't think it helps them to cite tradition as their go-to argument.

[awesome guy]

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

Look if marriage can be so easily redefined, why not the word "redskins"?

I think nearly 100 years of being a football team qualifies it as being a new, positive definition.

If you want to argue that the name isn't racist, defend your position on the merits. Citing tradition is a logical fallacy.

He did. If you can redefine a 10000 year old word, we can redefine a 100 year old word.

The assertion from the anti-Redskins contingent is that the name is a slur. In their opinion, just because racial slurs were okay 100 years ago (analogous to slurs that other minority groups were subjected to) doesn't mean they're okay now. The best defense for Snyder and other Redskins name advocates would be to state why the name isn't offensive. From a PR standpoint, I don't think it helps them to cite tradition as their go-to argument.

You're stuck in the failed policies of the past. Redskins now means "perpetual disappointment". The 10% of original North American Invaders that are offended by the old definition can accept this new definition.

[USN_Hokie]

The assertion from the anti-Redskins contingent is that the name is a slur. In their opinion, just because racial slurs were okay 100 years ago (analogous to slurs that other minority groups were subjected to) doesn't mean they're okay now. The best defense for Snyder and other Redskins name advocates would be to state why the name isn't offensive. From a PR standpoint, I don't think it helps them to cite tradition as their go-to argument.

Not directed at you, but.... 1. That "assertion" is rubbish IMO. What other sports teams have "slurs" for names? This seems like a pantywaist outrage... "OMGZ they described a group by the color of their skin!" 2. It seems that the only people making hay about this is political groups....ie, this is another attempt by the administration to make a "wedge" issue. Divider in Chief...indeed. The general public and redskin fans in general have no problem with it to my knowledge.

[CFB Apologist]

Within 10 years or so..NFL and NBA nicknames will be irrelevant anyway. American pro sports are going the way of the Euro soccer leagues...What is Manchester United's "nickname"??? anyone??- same for the Washington Football franchise in 10 years...they will be known by the main product they hock, like Manchester is known for Vodaphone or EON...which is the main thing on their jerseys...

[nolanvt]

Within 10 years or so..NFL and NBA nicknames will be irrelevant anyway. American pro sports are going the way of the Euro soccer leagues...What is Manchester United's "nickname"??? anyone??- same for the Washington Football franchise in 10 years...they will be known by the main product they hock, like Manchester is known for Vodaphone or EON...which is the main thing on their jerseys...

I agree with you. I think the NBA has flirted with the idea of advertisements on uniforms, so it's only a question of when it'll happen with the revenue streams to be generated from it.

[USN_Hokie]

Within 10 years or so..NFL and NBA nicknames will be irrelevant anyway. American pro sports are going the way of the Euro soccer leagues...What is Manchester United's "nickname"??? anyone??- same for the Washington Football franchise in 10 years...they will be known by the main product they hock, like Manchester is known for Vodaphone or EON...which is the main thing on their jerseys...

I don't think so. AFAIK, Baseball/Football team names go back a lot further than most of the Futbol teams. For example, I can't imagine New York dropping the name "Yankees" if for no other reason than tradition. And, if they did, what would the Mets call themselves....besides losers?

[awesome guy]

Within 10 years or so..NFL and NBA nicknames will be irrelevant anyway. American pro sports are going the way of the Euro soccer leagues...What is Manchester United's "nickname"??? anyone??- same for the Washington Football franchise in 10 years...they will be known by the main product they hock, like Manchester is known for Vodaphone or EON...which is the main thing on their jerseys...

I don't think so. AFAIK, Baseball/Football team names go back a lot further than most of the Futbol teams. For example, I can't imagine New York dropping the name "Yankees" if for no other reason than tradition. And, if they did, what would the Mets call themselves....besides losers?

As a southerner whose home town was burned down, fields salted, and made to suffer unimaginable inhumanity at the hands of Yankees , I'm deeply offended by the name and demand they change it. Change this offensive name now!

[USN_Hokie]

Within 10 years or so..NFL and NBA nicknames will be irrelevant anyway. American pro sports are going the way of the Euro soccer leagues...What is Manchester United's "nickname"??? anyone??- same for the Washington Football franchise in 10 years...they will be known by the main product they hock, like Manchester is known for Vodaphone or EON...which is the main thing on their jerseys...

I don't think so. AFAIK, Baseball/Football team names go back a lot further than most of the Futbol teams. For example, I can't imagine New York dropping the name "Yankees" if for no other reason than tradition. And, if they did, what would the Mets call themselves....besides losers?

As a southerner whose home town was burned down, fields salted, and made to suffer unimaginable inhumanity at the hands of Yankees , I'm deeply offended by the name and demand they change it. Change this offensive name now!

Yes, and as a veteran, I'm offended by the name "dodgers," and I'm sure that all Libertarians are offended by the name "Patriots" and its implied endorsement of the MIIILITARYYY INNNNDUSTRIALLLL COOOOMPLEXXX.

I'm not sure there's a single team name that some bleeding heart couldn't get butthurt over - White Sox? I think that could be a derogatory term for blue collar workers...after all, people who wear suits to work don't wear white socks.

[Florida Hokie]

...after all, people who wear suits to work don't wear white socks.

Apparently you never met my father.

[awesome guy]

...after all, people who wear suits to work don't wear white socks.

Apparently you never met my father.

Sure about that? Or is it the "dad look" of dress socks with sneakers and shorts?

[USN_Hokie]

...after all, people who wear suits to work don't wear white socks.

Apparently you never met my father.

I wouldn't call that a suit...

[Florida Hokie]

RESPECT THE UNIFORM!

...after all, people who wear suits to work don't wear white socks.

Apparently you never met my father.

I wouldn't call that a suit...

[Major Kong]

RESPECT THE UNIFORM!

[UpstateSCHokie]

Let me ask you this question. If they changed the name to "white skins" do you think anyone would get upset? If so, do you think its more likely that white people would get upset, or some other race?

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

[awesome guy]

Let me ask you this question. If they changed the name to "white skins" do you think anyone would get upset? If so, do you think its more likely that white people would get upset, or some other race?

Not a fan of any argument citing tradition. If Snyder feels that he shouldn't change the name because it's not offensive, I think he should've done so on the merits.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/let ... story.html

How about the Washington Yuppies!?