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How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:34 pm
by RiverguyVT
I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:37 pm
by cwtcr hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
We are in better shape on OL than we have been for years and we are LOADED at skill players and per everybody we have the one of the best defenses in the nation. This year will be good, 5 losses I do not see. I think we play the noles in the acccg myself

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:03 pm
by ip_law-hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
We are in better shape on OL than we have been for years and we are LOADED at skill players and per everybody we have the one of the best defenses in the nation. This year will be good, 5 losses I do not see. I think we play the noles in the acccg myself
We better get our licks in now given the coming recruiting fallout from Bud's rant.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:37 pm
by BG Hokie
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
Yeah, 8-5 or 9-4 after the bowl game. Those are probably the most likely records. I think we will be better and more consistently good to great on defense than last year and more consistently mediocre to decent on offense.

Last year, we went 3-5 in the ACC, we should reverse that and go about 5-3 in conference.

We'll lose to Ohio St. most likely (90 - 95% chance we lose). So, I'll guess 8-4 heading into a bowl game with a bowl loss to finish 8-5.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:43 pm
by cwtcr hokie
BG Hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
Yeah, 8-5 or 9-4 after the bowl game. Those are probably the most likely records. I think we will be better and more consistently good to great on defense than last year and more consistently mediocre to decent on offense.

Last year, we went 3-5 in the ACC, we should reverse that and go about 5-3 in conference.

We'll lose to Ohio St. most likely (90 - 95% chance we lose). So, I'll guess 8-4 heading into a bowl game with a bowl loss to finish 8-5.
many analysts are saying we win the acc this year, we have a great defense and remember we had lots of injuries toward the end of last year, those guys are back so I think your loss total is high, and our schedule beside OSU is not daunting.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:53 pm
by Bay_area_Hokie
I feel pretty good about Brewer this year....maybe I am too optimistic but I have a feeling he has a great year.


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Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:54 pm
by burgrugby
I think injuries are the biggest unknown. I don't like our depth. If we stay healthy, I think we can have a good year. If we start to lose some players to injury, we're in for another long season.
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:20 pm
by TheH2
cwtcr hokie wrote:We are in better shape on OL than we have been for years
That phrase is written every single year before the season starts. I stopped trusting Kyle Tucker's independence when he started believing that the o-line would be better - that gives you an idea of how long this has been said before the season starts. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me; fool me three times and you're officially a fan(atic).

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:47 pm
by cwtcr hokie
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:We are in better shape on OL than we have been for years
That phrase is written every single year before the season starts. I stopped trusting Kyle Tucker's independence when he started believing that the o-line would be better - that gives you an idea of how long this has been said before the season starts. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me; fool me three times and you're officially a fan(atic).
based on the players we have now we are in better shape then we have been for a couple of years, now if we start getting all our RB's hurt again like last year and losing OL to injury then we will struggle (as do most teams). Remember, we finished the year with no RB's healthy, we got killed by injuries on both sides of the ball last year

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:05 pm
by BG Hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
Yeah, 8-5 or 9-4 after the bowl game. Those are probably the most likely records. I think we will be better and more consistently good to great on defense than last year and more consistently mediocre to decent on offense.

Last year, we went 3-5 in the ACC, we should reverse that and go about 5-3 in conference.

We'll lose to Ohio St. most likely (90 - 95% chance we lose). So, I'll guess 8-4 heading into a bowl game with a bowl loss to finish 8-5.
many analysts are saying we win the acc this year, we have a great defense and remember we had lots of injuries toward the end of last year, those guys are back so I think your loss total is high, and our schedule beside OSU is not daunting.
I think my predicted records are the ones with the highest probability. There is certainly a chance we can put together an ACC Coastal or even ACC championship season BUT I don't think most analysts are saying we win the ACC this year. Some are but most are predicting Clemson, GT, and FSU at a higher rate than VT. If you were to analyze the analysts we're trending 4th in that department, which is also reasonably consistent with an 8-4 record IMO.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:52 pm
by cwtcr hokie
BG Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
Yeah, 8-5 or 9-4 after the bowl game. Those are probably the most likely records. I think we will be better and more consistently good to great on defense than last year and more consistently mediocre to decent on offense.

Last year, we went 3-5 in the ACC, we should reverse that and go about 5-3 in conference.

We'll lose to Ohio St. most likely (90 - 95% chance we lose). So, I'll guess 8-4 heading into a bowl game with a bowl loss to finish 8-5.
many analysts are saying we win the acc this year, we have a great defense and remember we had lots of injuries toward the end of last year, those guys are back so I think your loss total is high, and our schedule beside OSU is not daunting.
I think my predicted records are the ones with the highest probability. There is certainly a chance we can put together an ACC Coastal or even ACC championship season BUT I don't think most analysts are saying we win the ACC this year. Some are but most are predicting Clemson, GT, and FSU at a higher rate than VT. If you were to analyze the analysts we're trending 4th in that department, which is also reasonably consistent with an 8-4 record IMO.
klempson has D issues and has lost for the season a couple of D players, FSU does not have a proven QB yet and lost some skill players, GT is getting their normal pre-season hype but IMO we have a better team than GT. We don't have to worry about the noles or Klempson unless we get to the accccg but we have a good team this year.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:22 pm
by BG Hokie
cwtcr hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:
BG Hokie wrote:
RiverguyVT wrote:I'm seeing Mandel calling us the most overlooked, etc.

What I'm not seeing is confidence in our OL, nor our D's ability to stop an attack like BC's last yr w/ Tyler Murphy, nor Miami's. Old VT used to swallow up a power run game. Now, we get run over and do better against finesse passers.

I'm tired of being Charlie Brown with Lucy holding the ball before the season.

5 losses?
Yeah, 8-5 or 9-4 after the bowl game. Those are probably the most likely records. I think we will be better and more consistently good to great on defense than last year and more consistently mediocre to decent on offense.

Last year, we went 3-5 in the ACC, we should reverse that and go about 5-3 in conference.

We'll lose to Ohio St. most likely (90 - 95% chance we lose). So, I'll guess 8-4 heading into a bowl game with a bowl loss to finish 8-5.
many analysts are saying we win the acc this year, we have a great defense and remember we had lots of injuries toward the end of last year, those guys are back so I think your loss total is high, and our schedule beside OSU is not daunting.
I think my predicted records are the ones with the highest probability. There is certainly a chance we can put together an ACC Coastal or even ACC championship season BUT I don't think most analysts are saying we win the ACC this year. Some are but most are predicting Clemson, GT, and FSU at a higher rate than VT. If you were to analyze the analysts we're trending 4th in that department, which is also reasonably consistent with an 8-4 record IMO.
klempson has D issues and has lost for the season a couple of D players, FSU does not have a proven QB yet and lost some skill players, GT is getting their normal pre-season hype but IMO we have a better team than GT. We don't have to worry about the noles or Klempson unless we get to the accccg but we have a good team this year.
Sure, everyone has various weaknesses and areas of concern. We're no exception. I agree, we have a good team. 8-4 (my prediction for the regular season) is a good season.

How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:42 pm
by Bay_area_Hokie
An 8-4 record is really lame when you consider the schedule.. Furman, Purdue, Va, NC St, ECU, UNC should be six wins. That means 2-4 against the six good teams. That would be sad. You could swap out Duke for anyone on that list if you disagree with any of them.


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Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:42 pm
by RiverguyVT
Bay_area_Hokie wrote:I feel pretty good about Brewer this year....maybe I am too optimistic but I have a feeling he has a great year.
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Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:44 pm
by RiverguyVT
cwtcr hokie wrote:
TheH2 wrote:
cwtcr hokie wrote:We are in better shape on OL than we have been for years
That phrase is written every single year before the season starts. I stopped trusting Kyle Tucker's independence when he started believing that the o-line would be better - that gives you an idea of how long this has been said before the season starts. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me; fool me three times and you're officially a fan(atic).
based on the players we have now we are in better shape then we have been for a couple of years, now if we start getting all our RB's hurt again like last year and losing OL to injury then we will struggle (as do most teams). Remember, we finished the year with no RB's healthy, we got killed by injuries on both sides of the ball last year
But how deep are we? We will have injuries. Always do, always have. It seems to me VT is especially injury-prone when compared to some other programs. I imagine on OLman getting hurt, and then Beamer saying all year just how close we were...how the boys put out a great effort, just need to be consistent, and that ECU will really get after ya.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:35 pm
by BG Hokie
This was an interesting thread looking back. We already have 4 losses. UGGG.

We will be lucky to go 6-6.

Re: How bad will we be this yr?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:34 pm
by Bay_area_Hokie
I jinxed Brewer....


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