California science fair project tying race, IQ sparks outcry
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CA: Student does science fair project on race & IQ. Hilarity
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Re: CA: Student does science fair project on race & IQ. Hila
The anti-science left won't tolerate facts, at least publicly. They'll denounce him in public and then scurry to open a Planned Parenthood beside the dozen blacks in the program.
That kid is up to the line in using such facts. It's acceptable to explain why groups aren't in the program, awful to use those facts to create policies that deny entry based on those facts. It's can only be a tool to gain hindsight, not direct entry.
That kid is up to the line in using such facts. It's acceptable to explain why groups aren't in the program, awful to use those facts to create policies that deny entry based on those facts. It's can only be a tool to gain hindsight, not direct entry.
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I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
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"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.Major Kong wrote:I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
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Re: CA: Student does science fair project on race & IQ. Hila
That's the sort of thing which would be evaluated/graded in a...science fair, don't you think?Major Kong wrote:I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
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Yep. What's the "cultural bias" of this question:awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.Major Kong wrote:I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
Even better question: Why would the evil white man create a test with a cultural bias towards east asians and (Ashkenazi) jews?
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Re: CA: Student does science fair project on race & IQ. Hila
Just curious - where did that question come from?USN_Hokie wrote:Yep. What's the "cultural bias" of this question:awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.Major Kong wrote:I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
Even better question: Why would the evil white man create a test with a cultural bias towards east asians and (Ashkenazi) jews?
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Re: CA: Student does science fair project on race & IQ. Hila
I just did a google image search for "raven progressive matrices IQ test"ip_law-hokie wrote:Just curious - where did that question come from?USN_Hokie wrote:Yep. What's the "cultural bias" of this question:awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.Major Kong wrote:I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
Even better question: Why would the evil white man create a test with a cultural bias towards east asians and (Ashkenazi) jews?
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Raven's progressive matrices are a common type of question used to measure cognitive ability.
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That particular question is a good one for math and engineering. Computer programming too.USN_Hokie wrote:I just did a google image search for "raven progressive matrices IQ test"ip_law-hokie wrote:Just curious - where did that question come from?USN_Hokie wrote:Yep. What's the "cultural bias" of this question:awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.Major Kong wrote:I would have to see the IQ questions to determine the actual outcomes of the results...was it an actual "IQ" test or more of a "cultural" test
Even better question: Why would the evil white man create a test with a cultural bias towards east asians and (Ashkenazi) jews?
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Re: CA: Student does science fair project on race & IQ. Hila
I've seen many IQ test that were geared much more towards the "cultural" rather than actually measuring a persons actual intelligence.awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.
Measuring a persons IQ is a long drawn out procedure and can't be determined by an online IQ test consisting of just a "few" questions.
I'd actually like to see this test, and even take it, before I could make a determination of the validity of the exercise.
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I don't think it's worth getting too worked up about either way, one could argue that EQ is more determinative of success than IQ. You are not likely to get very far with just one.Major Kong wrote:I've seen many IQ test that were geared much more towards the "cultural" rather than actually measuring a persons actual intelligence.awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.
Measuring a persons IQ is a long drawn out procedure and can't be determined by an online IQ test consisting of just a "few" questions.
I'd actually like to see this test, and even take it, before I could make a determination of the validity of the exercise.
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Cognitive ability has a pretty strong correlation to success. That's why schools use it (the SAT, GRE, and even the LSAT are essentially IQ tests). Even the NFL uses it (Wonderlic). They'd never call it an IQ test, of course.ip_law-hokie wrote:I don't think it's worth getting too worked up about either way, one could argue that EQ is more determinative of success than IQ. You are not likely to get very far with just one.Major Kong wrote:I've seen many IQ test that were geared much more towards the "cultural" rather than actually measuring a persons actual intelligence.awesome guy wrote:"Cultural test" is a scapegoat for poor performance. No matter the metric, they all draw the same conclusion. IQ tests, wealth, incarceration rate, graduation rate, etc all tell the same story.
Measuring a persons IQ is a long drawn out procedure and can't be determined by an online IQ test consisting of just a "few" questions.
I'd actually like to see this test, and even take it, before I could make a determination of the validity of the exercise.
Emotional intelligence is also important. Psychopaths understand peoples' emotions and use it to manipulate them. That's why most CEOs have psychopathic tendencies.
All that said, if high intelligence was an important trait for humans, we'd all be Einsteins. I'm of the opinion that IQ above a certain level is a negative for most life situations. It might help you harness the power of the atom, but it won't help your life and marriage (Einstein had a messy divorce, his relationship with his children wasn't that great, and he regularly met with a psychiatrist).